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		<title>Comment on Deception and the Borderline Personality: What Could have Been? by rlm4136</title>
		<link>http://organizationalchangesolutions.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/deception-and-the-borderline-personality-what-could-have-been/#comment-1433</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joyce:

Thanks for you review and opinion about my article. I am thankful for your success in finding DBT and greater understanding to make your experience of life have the outcome that you speak about. If my article was difficult for you, I am sorry if it seems to create a a stigmata about personality disorders or any other mental illness, because that is not my intention. In response, it is apparent that while you are dealing effectively with your life and taking responsibility, the bulk of research suggests that many BPD individuals do not seek treatment until a crisis occurs. For them and the families of a person with BPD, it is a very perplexing and difficult issue to understand.

Since I wrote the article, I hope you do not mind if I share my personal observations. While there is great possibility for treatment and hope for a better life for the BPD, there is also a family, spouse, children, and others that are left in the wake of the problems this PD can create. I wrote this article as a personal reflection from my life experience with a family member with BPD who has not sought help and has literally destroyed family, relationships, and functionality in life. While I recognize the importance of your perspective, I also think that it is important to share the experience of those who are victimized by BPD. No mental condition or personality disorder should be stigmatized to diminish any person.

On the other hand, people who are the victims of a disorder that ravages families and destroys others lives should not be minimized to the point of stigmatizing the suffering of a loving mother, father, or family member who does not understand the nature of the PD. I hope you can understand that this was not written maliciously to castigate the person, but to point out to people who are experiencing life with a BPD, are not really crazy and there is hope in understanding the clinical information about one of many personality disorders and what can be through understanding what is happening. Thanks again for writing and publishing your thoughts. I wish the greatest success on your journey.

Ronnie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joyce:</p>
<p>Thanks for you review and opinion about my article. I am thankful for your success in finding DBT and greater understanding to make your experience of life have the outcome that you speak about. If my article was difficult for you, I am sorry if it seems to create a a stigmata about personality disorders or any other mental illness, because that is not my intention. In response, it is apparent that while you are dealing effectively with your life and taking responsibility, the bulk of research suggests that many BPD individuals do not seek treatment until a crisis occurs. For them and the families of a person with BPD, it is a very perplexing and difficult issue to understand.</p>
<p>Since I wrote the article, I hope you do not mind if I share my personal observations. While there is great possibility for treatment and hope for a better life for the BPD, there is also a family, spouse, children, and others that are left in the wake of the problems this PD can create. I wrote this article as a personal reflection from my life experience with a family member with BPD who has not sought help and has literally destroyed family, relationships, and functionality in life. While I recognize the importance of your perspective, I also think that it is important to share the experience of those who are victimized by BPD. No mental condition or personality disorder should be stigmatized to diminish any person.</p>
<p>On the other hand, people who are the victims of a disorder that ravages families and destroys others lives should not be minimized to the point of stigmatizing the suffering of a loving mother, father, or family member who does not understand the nature of the PD. I hope you can understand that this was not written maliciously to castigate the person, but to point out to people who are experiencing life with a BPD, are not really crazy and there is hope in understanding the clinical information about one of many personality disorders and what can be through understanding what is happening. Thanks again for writing and publishing your thoughts. I wish the greatest success on your journey.</p>
<p>Ronnie</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deception and the Borderline Personality: What Could have Been? by Joyce</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 23:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Marsha Linehan, creator of DBT, likens a BPD sufferer to an &quot;emotional third-degree burn victim.&quot;   &quot;...borderline individuals are the psychological equivalent of a third-degree burn patient. They simply have, so to speak, no emotional skin. Even the slightest touch or movement can create immense suffering.&quot;   &quot;Stimulate a passion, and the borderline emotionally bleeds to death&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Marsha Linehan, creator of DBT, likens a BPD sufferer to an &#8220;emotional third-degree burn victim.&#8221;   &#8220;&#8230;borderline individuals are the psychological equivalent of a third-degree burn patient. They simply have, so to speak, no emotional skin. Even the slightest touch or movement can create immense suffering.&#8221;   &#8220;Stimulate a passion, and the borderline emotionally bleeds to death&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deception and the Borderline Personality: What Could have Been? by Joyce</title>
		<link>http://organizationalchangesolutions.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/deception-and-the-borderline-personality-what-could-have-been/#comment-1431</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 21:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://makebpdstigmafree.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/deception-and-the-borderline-personality-what-could-have-been/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MAKE BPD STIGMA-FREE!&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Deception and the Borderline Personality: What Could have Been? by Joyce</title>
		<link>http://organizationalchangesolutions.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/deception-and-the-borderline-personality-what-could-have-been/#comment-1430</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 21:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have BPD and this article makes it seem like people with the disorder use these behaviours purposely, and that they never want to accept that diagnosis.  For years, I never knew what was wrong with me.  When I found out, I was so grateful.  I thought &quot;Thank God!  It&#039;s not just me!  There are others out there like this, and there&#039;s a name for it.  There is also treatment for it.  I attended a DBT (Dialectical Behaviour Therapy) Program several years ago, and am doing much better at managing my emotions; not that I&#039;m &quot;cured&quot;, but I always have to be aware of my thinking patterns and behaviour.  DBT is the best treatment for BPD.  Many people with BPD can heal and live very normal lives.  You say that help is out there but BPDs just won&#039;t accept it.  It is articles like this that continue the stigma associated with it.  No wonder most are afraid to come forward with their illness!  I am not!  I HAVE BPD AND I&#039;M NOT AFRAID TO ADMIT IT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have BPD and this article makes it seem like people with the disorder use these behaviours purposely, and that they never want to accept that diagnosis.  For years, I never knew what was wrong with me.  When I found out, I was so grateful.  I thought &#8220;Thank God!  It&#8217;s not just me!  There are others out there like this, and there&#8217;s a name for it.  There is also treatment for it.  I attended a DBT (Dialectical Behaviour Therapy) Program several years ago, and am doing much better at managing my emotions; not that I&#8217;m &#8220;cured&#8221;, but I always have to be aware of my thinking patterns and behaviour.  DBT is the best treatment for BPD.  Many people with BPD can heal and live very normal lives.  You say that help is out there but BPDs just won&#8217;t accept it.  It is articles like this that continue the stigma associated with it.  No wonder most are afraid to come forward with their illness!  I am not!  I HAVE BPD AND I&#8217;M NOT AFRAID TO ADMIT IT!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Are You Tired of Being A Vicitim? by george-b</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of the greater bullies today are for me the telemarketers, tape or not, who keep my telephone line busy, interfering with all my activities, and the companies that allow some of them to call 4.5 time a day, day or night. It tells a lot about the way civility is lost in....a bullying run, encouraged, and promoted society: I say: some of the bullies grow to be unabe to the embrace their humanity and humility!
Tahnks for linking!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the greater bullies today are for me the telemarketers, tape or not, who keep my telephone line busy, interfering with all my activities, and the companies that allow some of them to call 4.5 time a day, day or night. It tells a lot about the way civility is lost in&#8230;.a bullying run, encouraged, and promoted society: I say: some of the bullies grow to be unabe to the embrace their humanity and humility!<br />
Tahnks for linking!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Being Who God Created You to Be –The Reason for Existence (Part A) by Human Life &#8211; The White Noise of Consciousness &#124; The Inspired Verse</title>
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		<title>Comment on Deception and the Borderline Personality: What Could have Been? by rlm4136</title>
		<link>http://organizationalchangesolutions.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/deception-and-the-borderline-personality-what-could-have-been/#comment-1242</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katrina:  
Thanks so much for your kind words and sharing your story. It is a real story to me that resembles many of the same experiences.  I have written a number of articles on my blog about BPD because it has been a personal experience that has put many miles between family.  My experience was that I married into a family that has this experience.  I am glad that this helped to put a point of reference on your own experience.  I know that you are not exaggerating because I have been there and have the T-Shirt.  Be encouraged, this is one of my most read articles and you are not alone.

Ronnie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katrina:<br />
Thanks so much for your kind words and sharing your story. It is a real story to me that resembles many of the same experiences.  I have written a number of articles on my blog about BPD because it has been a personal experience that has put many miles between family.  My experience was that I married into a family that has this experience.  I am glad that this helped to put a point of reference on your own experience.  I know that you are not exaggerating because I have been there and have the T-Shirt.  Be encouraged, this is one of my most read articles and you are not alone.</p>
<p>Ronnie</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deception and the Borderline Personality: What Could have Been? by Katrina</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Ronnie,
This is the most incisive and timely article on BPD that I have ever read.  Perhaps because it&#039;s not clinical and seems to speak from an experience of living in close contact with a person with this disorder.
It&#039;s very timely, because I have only in the last few weeks woken up to the fact that my older sister displays all the characteristic you portray in this article.  
I moved thousands of miles away from my large family because of the pain, confusion and poison that seemed permeate almost every member of my family.
I longed to understand why we weren&#039;t a loving caring family.  Hoped I could do something to turn it around and to be honest, wasted years of my life trying to figure out a way to &#039;make it better&#039;.
As they say, no good deed goes unpunished with people who suffer this type of disorder, so no matter how caring, giving or supportive I was, nothing changed and in fact, I think I was seen as a bit of a sucker.
That changed when I returned home after 30 yrs with a detached view of my family and through quiet observation I could see, exactly as you describe, how family members has unwittingly enabled the BPD in our family to cause suspicion, mistrust and a very poor view of all the other family members.  The family became divided.  Little camps formed, someone was constantly scapegoatted, and we all blamed each other, based on the opinions we had formed from our very discreet and clever BPD.
As I observed and listened to my older sister, it became very clear to me, that she lied, manipulated, distorted reality to suit her needs and waged an unbelievable war or hatred and rage towards anyone who did not join her when she turned from seeing someone as &#039;all good&#039; to &#039;all bad&#039; evil in her words.
I can now see so clearly how well we were manipulated and how we enabled her behaviour.  It don&#039;t think about &#039;what could have been&#039; I think about &#039;what can be&#039; and by that I mean, freedom from her influence, freedom from the fear of her bullying and character assasination and manipulation.
I have to say, she was very clever and very subtle in most things, that is, apart from the rage when she discovered at one stage, that her manipulation had not worked and backfired on her.
What astounds me is, the need for control is so pervasive that it encompasses the most petty to the most insidious.

Example: She invites me to lunch.  Tells me to choose the location.  I do so and inform her which restaurant we&#039;ll meet.  She then sends me the name of another restaurant, nearer her home.  So I tell her I&#039;ve booked a table.  She calls on the day and cancels, claiming she&#039;s sick.
We arrange to meet again, somewhere closer to where I live.  She tells me, she can&#039;t park there (there&#039;s a huge parking area), she can&#039;t travel by public transport because she gets dizzy and may fall on the rain line.  She can&#039;t walk far.
A week later, she tells me she drove and parked at the same location and walked around the entire mall, (which is huge by the way).
Another time, she tells me she&#039;s very keen to meet my new companion, so I make a date for her and her husband for lunch.  She calls the night before to say she wants to tell her husband, that I cancelled because she had a fight with him and doesn&#039;t want him to come and wants to come alone, so will tell him, she&#039;s visiting a friend.  I didn&#039;t agree and cancelled the lunch.
Three months later, she tells me she was very keen to meet my new companion, but I never responded to her numerous requests!!!  I tell her the true circumstances, that she didn&#039;t want her husband to come.  She denied it and tried to convince me that I had ignored her requests.  I persisted with my answer, I did, you didn&#039;t want your husband to come and we cancelled because of that.
These are just petty every day behaviours.  The more insidious, poisonous and destructive, are heart breaking.  She destroyed a relationship between myself and another sister that I was very close to.  I have to admit, I played a part by allowing myself to be sucked into being manipulated and influenced.
That was my wake up call.  After destroying that relationship, she became very friendly with the sister in question, poisoned her so that we could never repair our relationship.  She died, I was banned from the funeral, unable to give care and support while she was ill and she was never able to accept my apology and attempt to repair our relationship, because she was still under the influence of BPD, causing her to be suspicious and angry towards me.
Thanks for your post.  It has only helped me in my resolve to keep my eyes and ears open with this sister.  We communicate mostly by phone and email, I don&#039;t get sucked into her hate campaigns, I won&#039;t encourage her by sympathising when she acts the victim, because I know, she is projecting all her anger and frustrations at her own emptiness, boredom and bitterness, onto someone else, to avoid taking responsibility for her own feelings.  
It&#039;s interesting to note, that when a BPD knows that you are on to them, that they back peddle and tread carefully!  I don&#039;t confront her, I simply don&#039;t encourage her.  She is my sister, I would like to maintain some contact, but I will not be an enabler and will not tolerate one more drama aimed at me either.
It&#039;s comforting to know that someone else has such insight into this problem, because it is so well disguised that if I spoke to anyone about it, I&#039;m almost sure they would think at the very least, I was exaggerating.
Best wishes, Katrina]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ronnie,<br />
This is the most incisive and timely article on BPD that I have ever read.  Perhaps because it&#8217;s not clinical and seems to speak from an experience of living in close contact with a person with this disorder.<br />
It&#8217;s very timely, because I have only in the last few weeks woken up to the fact that my older sister displays all the characteristic you portray in this article.<br />
I moved thousands of miles away from my large family because of the pain, confusion and poison that seemed permeate almost every member of my family.<br />
I longed to understand why we weren&#8217;t a loving caring family.  Hoped I could do something to turn it around and to be honest, wasted years of my life trying to figure out a way to &#8216;make it better&#8217;.<br />
As they say, no good deed goes unpunished with people who suffer this type of disorder, so no matter how caring, giving or supportive I was, nothing changed and in fact, I think I was seen as a bit of a sucker.<br />
That changed when I returned home after 30 yrs with a detached view of my family and through quiet observation I could see, exactly as you describe, how family members has unwittingly enabled the BPD in our family to cause suspicion, mistrust and a very poor view of all the other family members.  The family became divided.  Little camps formed, someone was constantly scapegoatted, and we all blamed each other, based on the opinions we had formed from our very discreet and clever BPD.<br />
As I observed and listened to my older sister, it became very clear to me, that she lied, manipulated, distorted reality to suit her needs and waged an unbelievable war or hatred and rage towards anyone who did not join her when she turned from seeing someone as &#8216;all good&#8217; to &#8216;all bad&#8217; evil in her words.<br />
I can now see so clearly how well we were manipulated and how we enabled her behaviour.  It don&#8217;t think about &#8216;what could have been&#8217; I think about &#8216;what can be&#8217; and by that I mean, freedom from her influence, freedom from the fear of her bullying and character assasination and manipulation.<br />
I have to say, she was very clever and very subtle in most things, that is, apart from the rage when she discovered at one stage, that her manipulation had not worked and backfired on her.<br />
What astounds me is, the need for control is so pervasive that it encompasses the most petty to the most insidious.</p>
<p>Example: She invites me to lunch.  Tells me to choose the location.  I do so and inform her which restaurant we&#8217;ll meet.  She then sends me the name of another restaurant, nearer her home.  So I tell her I&#8217;ve booked a table.  She calls on the day and cancels, claiming she&#8217;s sick.<br />
We arrange to meet again, somewhere closer to where I live.  She tells me, she can&#8217;t park there (there&#8217;s a huge parking area), she can&#8217;t travel by public transport because she gets dizzy and may fall on the rain line.  She can&#8217;t walk far.<br />
A week later, she tells me she drove and parked at the same location and walked around the entire mall, (which is huge by the way).<br />
Another time, she tells me she&#8217;s very keen to meet my new companion, so I make a date for her and her husband for lunch.  She calls the night before to say she wants to tell her husband, that I cancelled because she had a fight with him and doesn&#8217;t want him to come and wants to come alone, so will tell him, she&#8217;s visiting a friend.  I didn&#8217;t agree and cancelled the lunch.<br />
Three months later, she tells me she was very keen to meet my new companion, but I never responded to her numerous requests!!!  I tell her the true circumstances, that she didn&#8217;t want her husband to come.  She denied it and tried to convince me that I had ignored her requests.  I persisted with my answer, I did, you didn&#8217;t want your husband to come and we cancelled because of that.<br />
These are just petty every day behaviours.  The more insidious, poisonous and destructive, are heart breaking.  She destroyed a relationship between myself and another sister that I was very close to.  I have to admit, I played a part by allowing myself to be sucked into being manipulated and influenced.<br />
That was my wake up call.  After destroying that relationship, she became very friendly with the sister in question, poisoned her so that we could never repair our relationship.  She died, I was banned from the funeral, unable to give care and support while she was ill and she was never able to accept my apology and attempt to repair our relationship, because she was still under the influence of BPD, causing her to be suspicious and angry towards me.<br />
Thanks for your post.  It has only helped me in my resolve to keep my eyes and ears open with this sister.  We communicate mostly by phone and email, I don&#8217;t get sucked into her hate campaigns, I won&#8217;t encourage her by sympathising when she acts the victim, because I know, she is projecting all her anger and frustrations at her own emptiness, boredom and bitterness, onto someone else, to avoid taking responsibility for her own feelings.<br />
It&#8217;s interesting to note, that when a BPD knows that you are on to them, that they back peddle and tread carefully!  I don&#8217;t confront her, I simply don&#8217;t encourage her.  She is my sister, I would like to maintain some contact, but I will not be an enabler and will not tolerate one more drama aimed at me either.<br />
It&#8217;s comforting to know that someone else has such insight into this problem, because it is so well disguised that if I spoke to anyone about it, I&#8217;m almost sure they would think at the very least, I was exaggerating.<br />
Best wishes, Katrina</p>
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		<title>Comment on Being Who God Created You to Be: Life on Earth Is a Temporary Assignment by Experiencing the Love of your LIfe &#171; Oshna</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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